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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Dystopia  Reply with quote

I think it sucks...only songs I really like is Dystopia, and Equilibrium. The album sounds so bland and repetitive imo...nothing close to the quality of Something Wicked or the FA/TCoM albums.

However, I think Stu Block is a great addition to IE. He does everything Ripper and Barlow can do (ok maybe not everything Barlow can do) but he is definitely better than Ripper.

I am highly disappointed with this album....I was highly disappointed with Festivals of the Wicked as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went right after school to the city centre just to buy the deluxe edition.
I can't say I am disappointed. I think it's a good record, as of now there were some really strong moments on it. It's a shame though, that "Soylent Green" and "Iron Will" (sounds very Glorious Burden-ish) are "only" bonus tracks!
I will post a track by track review in some months, when the hype has settled and I can truly sort out which is a good song and which not.
I think it's better than Crucible, maybe a little bit better than Framing (I loved that one! ).
Let's see...  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The album is right up there with Horror Show. Such a great mood for the guys to be in!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOAR COMMENTS, NAO!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I infact love it. The only song I really didn't enjoy was "End of Innocence." Other then that, I think it's very solid. Stu is excellent on the mic and his lyrics are written quite well. If you compare it to "Crucible of Man", it fucking blows it away.

Well worth the wait, I was actually suprised it turned out this way. "Dark City" and "Dystopia" are my two favorite tracks. The rest are all good in their own way, even the bonus tracks. Overall it's great.

And to Kanadwen, how is this album worse the COM? That's IE's worst by far in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would if I had it yet. Broke as shit given how I'm paying myself through school.

Right now from the 3 songs Ive heard.

Dystopia: Old Iced Earthisms come in and out of this song. Stu of course is kicking ass.
Fast? Check.
Heavy? Check
Simple and formulaic? FUCK NO!


Days of Rage: I get a post Power Metal album Pantera vibe. I really REALLY dislike that vibe......the end of the song is actually pretty cool since Stu is wailing on. I can appreciate the high notes but thats about it.

Anthem: Its growing on me, but if they had more rhythm, or maybe just sped it up a bit, it would improve drastically.

More to come. hopefully I'll have a delux or even the fucking vinyl.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like it. I am only dissapointed in the bonus tracks covers of Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" and Black Sabbath's "Mob Rules". Dissapointed because the "Trooper" is only available on the Japanese edition (which I "downloaded" sorry but that's the only way for me to have gotten the song) and that the "Mob Rules" is only on the iTunes site which would not be a problem normally except that you have to buy the entire digital album just to get the song rather than paying .99 for the song itself. So I spent the 10 bucks on  a digital download of an album I already own, just for one song. Oh well at least Iced Earth get some money from the iTunes sale, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might come off as a bit brutal and I don't think anyone will agree with me. But I drove 40 minutes to my nearest BestBuy on October 18th and bought the Deluxe edition. Rather the LAST Deluxe edition they had in the store. Some serious anticipation was building for me to check out and pop this thing into my car player on the ride home.

However the disappointment I felt listening to it all the way through (drove extra slow back home) is not as strong as what I felt for Opeth's Heritage, but I am still not pleased like most other Iced Earth fans are by a long shot. No, it is NOT because of the new singer, because I actually thought this Stu character was AMAZING and an incredible breath of fresh air. And no it wasn't because of the music. The songs were written very well and just enjoyable as anything else the bands done. What has almost totally ruined Dystopia for me? THE LYRICS. Let me explain.

I stopped giving a damn about lyrics eons ago. For me music enjoyment happens in this order usually; vocals>drum sound>song writing (is it simple radiofriendly crap or actually something intelligent and creative)>the energy the music provides. Guitars and whatnot are a somewhat concern too, but lyrics are barely a factor at all. I mean, I even listen to Green Jell˙ and you want to talk about horrible lyrics, there's a prime example. BUT I DONT CARE.

The opening title track is KILLER. It excels in all the music points I mentioned above. And I was so caught up in the music I only paid attention to the lyrics enough to notice there wasn't any mentioning of the Set Abomine character or any of the Something Wicked content, which hey I'm cool with. That subject has kind of worn out its welcome. But then Anthem starts up. Don't know why but I started paying attention to what's being sung. I'm sorry, am I listening to an Iced Earth album or a metalized commercial for people on Welfare? These aren't metal lyrics. I can see a grunge band writing something like this in the 90s, but I don't want aggressive music, or even a ballad about something like this. And I don't think I missed the message either. To me it just dosen't work on an IE album.

Boiling Point is another great song, but now after being so frustrated with Anthem Im listening to the words to this one too. It's like it's trying to be angry, but it's missed its mark for me. All I can think of is some of the stuff Dave Mustaine has written over the years. THATS angry.

So started me listening to everything being sung the whole ride home, and I've come to the conclusion that the lyrical content on Dystopia is just too...human. Too normal. I'm ok with thrash bands putting politics into their stuff, but in general I prefer violent, aggressive lyrics. And in comparison to OTHER Iced Earth songs? Disciples of the Lie is a great place to show where there's some genuine aggressive words being put to killer music.

So yes, the mood is killed by lyrics that talk about normal life too much. Because of this, Dystopia get's a 7/10 in my book. With different lyrics? This thing would get very close to surpassing even Something Wicked this Way Comes, which is my favorite by the band hands down.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sexiest Metalhead wrote:
And to Kanadwen, how is this album worse the COM? That's IE's worst by far in my opinion.


I loved COM.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, my official thoughts on the album:

The guitars are thrash - heavy, chugging riffs and nice solos. Jons rhythm is superb per usual, but I hear a little.... IDK, I feel hes writing riffs for the sake of writing riffs. You know? I dont FEEL Iced Earth in this album.

Steve's vocals are a nice twist on the record. I was blown away by a few songs, particularly the title track and Tragedy and Triumph.

I dont feel much innovation in the bass either.

For me, a 6/10. Meh. Meh. MEH.

I was expecting moar thrash  Crying or Very sad

EDIT: I haven't heard the bonus tracks. Just got the regular CD; local Hot Topic didnt have the deluxe edition and FYE has disappeared Sad


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