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Set Abominae

Atheism VS Christianity

Now, I want everyone's opinion on this - you can't say you don't have an opinion. I want to hear from everyone.

Here's something that I've been thinking about for a long time. As most of you know, I'm a Christian. But as most of you also know, I'm not a normal Christian, and that's why I've been calling myself a religious agnostic - because I don't want to be labeled as a current-day Christian. I don't tell you what you're doing is wrong - because even though it is, I do it as well - I can't be a hypocrite. Sin is equal in God's eyes. I don't shove my beliefs down your throat - if anything I will say something to you but not unless you start the conversation. But my real point is this.

Since the beginning of time, the world has been at war. You're either on one side or the other - you are a religious person, no matter what church you attend or what god you believe in, or you are an atheist and you believe there are no forms of higher power. Let's leave the agnostics out of this at this point - they seem to be at peace with either of us for now heh.

We have all been fighting an endless battle. That's right, endless - it's not going to end any time soon. I highly doubt considerable proof that God exists or does not exist will come in the newspaper tomorrow morning. We each have our leads - Atheists with evolution. Evolution hasn't been proven but it hasn't been disproven either. It's the theory of it. Christians have the Bible. It also hasn't been proven or disproven, however ancient texts of the Bible have been found - but that only proves it's been around for centuries.

This fight isn't going to end. We need to come to a realization here. I can't say either side is to blame - we are all equally bad. Christians bash Atheists all the time and try to spread the word of God, but they don't do it in the right way. And Atheists will bash the Christians just as much, saying they shove their beliefs down their throats and they can't prove God exists.

We all need to realize that no matter what we believe in, we are on this Earth and we need to live in harmony. We ALL need to learn to accept others beliefs. If we don't soon, this world is going to end by our means. We will literally destroy eachother. Do you guys remember the many genocides across this world? How would you feel if the Atheists decided that Christians were too radical and judgmental to be kept around anymore? How would you feel if the Christians decided to bring back the Crusades?

My point is this - before you open your mouth about your beliefs, learn to RESPECT other's.
paranoidmexican

heavy metal is my religion

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Kanadwen

It's not the fact of who is what and what is who, it's the fact of learning how to deal with it, has nothing to do with religion/theory it all, it just comes down to good fucking manners. Respect in each other. There is not only Christians and Atheists, throw a mother fucking Jedi in there and you got some shit on your hands.
Dante

I believe in me, you.. and that's it.
You respect Me. Me respect You
Set Abominae

Dante wrote:
I believe in me, you.. and that's it.
You respect Me. Me respect You


I see where you're coming from. Thing is, respect is kind of a double edged sword. It really depends on what the context is. In this case, its hard to respect either party at this point [which is exactly why i pulled from the christian label].
Dante

Set Abominae wrote:
Dante wrote:
I believe in me, you.. and that's it.
You respect Me. Me respect You


I see where you're coming from. Thing is, respect is kind of a double edged sword. It really depends on what the context is. In this case, its hard to respect either party at this point [which is exactly why i pulled from the christian label].

Yeah it's kinda like this.
Christians don't respect me 'cause I'm not Christian, and that would mean that i have to disrespect them. There is no hope for the moral man.
Kanadwen

Dante wrote:

Christians don't respect me 'cause I'm not Christian, and that would mean that i have to disrespect them. There is no hope for the moral man.


True true, but there are Christians out there that would respect you.
Feaněs

Re: Atheism VS Christianity

Set Abominae wrote:
How would you feel if the Christians decided to bring back the Crusades?

My point is this - before you open your mouth about your beliefs, learn to RESPECT other's.



well, actually I would stand against them and cut them down were they stand. IF the Christians EVER try to harm people or try to make people believing in there religion by violence, I swear I will hunt every one of them down...

I'm sorry, I respect the Catholic Church. I AM a Catholic, but I would NEVER again respect them, if they bring back the crusades...

every one, needs something, to believe. Some name it god, some name it a higher power. it doesn't matter, important is, that you believe in something, otherwise it would be bad.
I believe in a higher power, which you could name god if you like, but I don't use the term anymore, for there IS no god as we think of it. Cause the human brain isn't ready to see such things in they ways  they should been seen.

you talk about a endless war. may it be so, what do I care? I don't mind if people discusse there believings, it is good in a way, but as I said, if violence is added, the fun is over...
Shorty

"The history of mankind is a history of war"
I stopped thinking about religions. If you look back in history, the most killings were done for religion. Especially the Church did in Medieval times very much useless and nonsense shit. The Inquisition for example, or the Crusades (yeah, setting free the Holy Lands is a very good reason Rolling Eyes  )
I also don't believe in God. Like I said in another topic before, "God" will punish us for our sins and send us to Hell, BUT he "loves" us Rolling Eyes  I rather go to Hell instead of the Christian Paradise (it sounds so boring Laughing  )
There must be or must have been (maybe Gods can also die? Shocked  ) something which was responsible for the Big Bang, but I don't want to call it God. In the most religions God seems like a sadomasochistic person who likes to see us drowning in our pain and misery. The most (religious people) would call this being "Satan", for me it is the Christian (and not only) God.
Another thing I believe is that the human species is the least one that deserves to live. Dinosaurs, (later) Animals and all the Plants lived so many millions and billions of years in harmony with our earth. Than like 150 thousand years ago came the human race, like 10 thousand years ago they started todestroy totally our planet. I won't say that the things we've done are all bad (for us) but we destroyed earth and in future we will also destroy the universe. "Intelligence is a Gift AND a Curse"
Back to the God theme: Why would a God create such wonderful things and let them got destroyed by a stupid race which things that it is the most intelligent and the "chosen" ?
We never will know the answers until death, but it's good for your heart, your mind and your soul if you can talk about these things.
I think the most things I wrote are out of topic, but, oh well  Laughing
Dante

Shorty wrote:
Back to the God theme: Why would a God create such wonderful things and let them got destroyed by a stupid race which things that it is the most intelligent and the "chosen" ?

'Cause he doesn't care about this race anymore. God used Adam and Eve as puppets until Eve ate that fruit.
Then they got smart, and God punished them and sent them to earth.
God has no control over us anymore.
- This is my interpretation of the Christian Creation myth.
(I don't believe it)
Kanadwen

Dante wrote:
Then they got smart, and God punished them and sent them to earth.
God has no control over us anymore.


Well thats not very fair! Sad Why would I have to be punished for what some biatch did 845793457834597348957345 years ago?

Razz
Dante

Kanadwen wrote:
Dante wrote:
Then they got smart, and God punished them and sent them to earth.
God has no control over us anymore.


Well thats not very fair! Sad Why would I have to be punished for what some biatch did 845793457834597348957345 years ago?

Razz

*6000 years ago...
Very Happy
^^
That's why Christianity fails.
Feaněs

Christianity fails no matter what....

I mean, a bunch of gay guys who aren't allowed to fuck weman? Come on...
paranoidmexican

I am God
Feaněs

paranoidmexican wrote:
I am God


 -.-

and, so what?
I am the father of lies, betrayer of hope, bringer of the darkness that is to come. Destoyer of all forms and enemy of human kind.
Shorty

paranoidmexican wrote:
I am God


My brother is God ! (the other one is the Anti Christ, I haven't made my decision  Laughing  )

(I'm sure I'll get banned for this Cool  )
Tainted Innocence

paranoidmexican wrote:
I am God



god of phail.


ilymexicano! <333
The Sexiest Metalhead

Our lovely admin is god... Laughing

One time I was walking by the lake, and I swear to god I saw him on the water...

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