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Zook
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If I had money to waste, I'd buy this set, but I already have every Iced Earth album so it's uneccessary. I wonder if Century Media screwed up the track lists and names like they did with The Blessed And The Damned.
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Stormrider
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The Wicked One wrote: | um when it comes to record companies they can own your soul. no joke.
meaning that box set has no duty to have any profit go to Shaffer or the band Iced Earth.
The songs are written by Jon and Iced Earth but ownership only applies for the sake of creative license.
If some1 had a song that sounded like stormrider to almost a T, then Iced Earth would have the right to call foul. As would the record lable that produced it. |
That answers that part, but what about why Shaffer doesn't endorse it. Does he view it as merely a cash in on IE's fame by Century Media since Century Media can not release any new recordings and can only release what they already have? And even so why doesn't he have it on the discography page as he has the others (The rest of Century Media's releases including Dark Genesis and the individual released versions of the cds from that set)?
Does he not view it as an actual release? Like how Cradle Of Filth do NOT endorse the recent box set released by Koch records (since they are no longer on that label, but COF went on record as saying that it is basically a cash in and rip off to fans, for the reasons being that there is nothing new, no bonus tracks, and each cd is still available individually, Koch is just trying to re release the material they had when COF were on that label and it is not worth getting. That box set is NOT on COF's discog either) I haven't read or heard John's reasons, thought some one here might have. They may echo COF's reasons I don't know. It seems like almost the same situation except Century went all out with awesome artwork and packaging and included bonus and unreleased tracks (The two Hellspawn mixes).
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The Wicked One
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you basically answered it yourself.
for what i know he hasn't made a statement concerning it.
all the albums have been re-issued and remixed and re mastered and thrown into a greatest compilation
a box set wasn't necessary because they had just brought the re-issues up.
This is another money grabber. Extra tracks are simply a better marketing venture.
Just think when they try to do this again.
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Dante
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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They talk about on some interviews ago!
The guy just asked Jon what he fought about it, and Jon just said that it is CM and he has nothing to do with it (even though it's 100% his)!
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Stormrider
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Plus they just released the "lp" cd's on their own now anyway, so that is even more of a chance to get money from those who don't want to buy the box set.
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