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Biggest Disappointment of the Year: Iced Earth - TCOM - 411
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feanės wrote:
well fuck him, I don't care about what he says, and Schaffer does not either....

I do not give a shit on his oppinion...


Hey, you sound like good old Jon Wink...

Anyway.... Crucible of Man surely ain´t the best album but I wouldn´t call it a disappointment. It´s a good record that I enjoy listening to, nothing less and nothing more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually quite liked TCOM. It concluded the story very nicely, the return of Barlow was amazing, Jon's riffs were phenomenal as ever and  I think it deserved every bit of hype it got. A Gift or a Curse, Crucify the King and Come What May are among my favorite Iced Earth songs of all time. Especially Crucify the King.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahmed wrote:
I actually quite liked TCOM. It concluded the story very nicely, the return of Barlow was amazing, Jon's riffs were phenomenal as ever and  I think it deserved every bit of hype it got. A Gift or a Curse, Crucify the King and Come What May are among my favorite Iced Earth songs of all time. Especially Crucify the King.


I loved TCOM as well, but it still felt like something was missing. It needed a conclusion like The Coming Curse, even tho Come What May is a really good ending The Coming Curse just had all this power behind it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The song Something Wicked Part 3 fills the role of The Coming Curse.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWP3 is really bland tho, it's just one rift throughout the whole song. TCC had a nice piano intro, followed by normal singing, then a chorus, then a nice rift, then a new rift, into chanting, back into a new rift, then back to the beginning of the song. BTW, Jon's new version of TCC in Overture of the Wicked was REALLY horrible. I did like the new drums though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really like SWP3 that much, there could have been much more made out from it...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I´m not a huge fan of Something Wicked Part 3 either. Fo me it´s the worst song on Crucible.
Besides that, as I said before, I really enjoy the record, the only other thing that bothers me is that there should have been a few more faster songs on the record.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to disagree here, I love that song. And it DOES remind me of The Coming Curse. There is not a single song on that album I dislike.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that song rocks - cmon !!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I respect your oppinion about it, don't get me wrong, I also love TCOM, but for me, SWP3 is the weakest song on the album, and only becuause of the one riff from the SW trilogy, it reminds of the coming corse, cause its the same riff, but that doesn't makes the song any better, I don't think it is bad or shit, but it is not as great to me as the other songs on the album.



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